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Comments Reflection:
Indeed! Astral projection, what is this?
Many individuals do believe that it is a new frontier that which needs to be
explored to be further understood. Astral projection was utilized by many ancient
individuals from that of the Aztec Indians to the Egyptian individuals, those
that would not exist onto the planet Earth and as well the Atlanteans.
The format of astral projection is that of a tool, a tool to be utilized in
understanding the physical existence. For one would oftimes believe that only
the consciousness exists. This is not the case. For the consciousness would
not exist without the subconscious, without the astral experiences. For that
which you desire on the consciousness here is, in fact, laid out, carefully
planned, projected, weighed and measured and chosen on the astral experience.
Individuals enter an astral state every evening upon retiring. It is not something
that one needs to learn to do for one already does it, else you would not exist
on the physical. For to deny that of the astral body would be like cutting
off the head from the rest of the body. You would not survive without such.
Indeed here, many individuals have learned to tap into their astral learnings
and recall such and as such do utilize it in their consciousness to understand
the self, to direct the self, to work in cooperation with the self. Indeed,
such as the Atlanteans used astral projection to further create a desired reality.
So then too can those that exist in that of the primitive understanding of
the present utilize this useful tool.
Here we shall begin with the questions.
Steve: Primitive. Are we really that far behind?
R: For
some would understand such indeed.
S: Ok.
I understand there are helpers who assist us in astral travel.
Who and what are they and how do they help?
R: These are what you refer to as your spiritual
guides. For each individual does hold with themselves a myriad
of individuals not of the physical existence that have chosen
to interact and help the individual learn of the physical that
they have existed in. These are called your spiritual guides
or some would refer to them as guardian angels. Indeed!
S: You've
answered this, I think. Can anybody experience or everybody experience
astral projection and I think, of course, yes, you've said so.
R: Indeed!
S: How
can we learn how to do it? Now that seems a little strange because
you say we already know how. So what is the process that we're
missing?
R: You are missing the conscious recall of
the experiences you are already having. That is all. And why
do you lack this? For as individuals grow within their physical
existence, there are certain conditions that are learned as
they do develop, certain fears and blocks. For individuals
become so attached to the physical environment that they would
have a tendency to block out all that they cannot understand,
see, touch or smell and therefore deny the self of these experiences.
Some would hold within themselves the fear of loosing control.
Loosing control of what, we do state? Control of the physical,
when it is the astral body that does, in fact, control the
physical, if you will? This would be somewhat difficult to
understand from our perception.
S: How
can we learn then how to regain this awareness and could you
give us some practical techniques?
R: Indeed! There are techniques that one can
utilize. First of all, overcoming the fears that do prevent
you from recalling these experiences is the best thing to look
at. How does one overcome these fears? Some would need to face
the fear before they can understand it and one does that by
looking at the self honestly and discarding the fear that is
not beneficial for their existence. Through the use of meditation,
through that of music, one can utilize this as a useful tool
to overcome the fear. To program the self would be to simply
state onto the self, upon retiring, that you are recalling
your dreams, recalling your astral experiences into that of
the physical. Now what is the difference between dreams and
astral, some would state? Indeed! The dream body is the remembrance
of the astral experience. They do work together. There is a
difference here. The dream is like a movie, like the astral
body watching a movie, if you will. But yet individuals recall
their dreams sometimes and have difficulty recalling the astral.
This is because they fear that ghostly image of themselves
and fear facing the self and they would not wish to remember
such.
S: Is
this why we oftimes can't see ourselves in dreams yet we're aware
that we're a part of it?
R: Indeed. For you are participating in the
dream yet you are, in fact, viewing the dream through the astral
state.
S: Ok.
Why is it sometimes during a dream that we will feel as if we
are snapped back into our bodies? Is this a sudden return to
the body or just a remembrance of the astral or what is happening
here.
R: Indeed, what occurs here at these times
is that a fear suddenly is triggered and indeed the conscious
mind wants that control and the security quickly, you see,
and so therefore individuals flip back into the body. For the
whole idea of life is to in-cooperate that of the astral self
and the conscious self. The astral self will cooperate with
the conscious self. Yet indeed the conscious self has difficulty
cooperating with the astral.
S: Our
tendency to do things backwards, yes? Ok. You talked about the
astral body, the dream body, how does this differ between the
soul or the personality essence and is there a difference in
this essence or body before or after death? The spirit body as
it's sometimes called.
R: Indeed. The astral self is a portion of
the personality that exist in the physical and is that which
is connected to the greater aspect of this personality or character
connected to the soul essence. It is the link between the soul
and the conscious mind or personality of the individual.
S: What
we sometimes call the soul entity the spirit? Would that be the
same...?
R: Indeed. What is spirit? Spirit is, in fact,
energy. When one states that individual is lacking in spirit,
what does this mean? They are lacking in energy.
S: Of
some description.
R: The essence of such. However, it is far
greater than that.
S: So
really this is a wholistic thing we're talking about not several
different things that may or may not work together.
R: Indeed.
S: Is
there any way or chance that the astral body can inadvertently
be separated from the physical body during projection?
R: Not during projection. For realize that
the desire of the astral self is to cooperate' with the conscious
self. Why would the astral self choose to separate? It is the
conscious self that choose the separation and this occurs at
the point of casting off clay.[meaning: the phyisical body
at death]
S: Alright,
to further that, is there really a silver cord or similar connection
between the astral and physical bodies or is it merely a symbol
of something else which has been misinterpreted or misunderstood?
R: Indeed. This is more to the point here.
The silver cord or the spoken about silver cord is but that
of a security blanket that the conscious mind requires to ensure
that separation does not occur. Because the conscious mind
has difficulty understanding what is occurring, would create
an assurance and individuals oftimes do see the cord for indeed
in order to continue their astral journeys and experiences,
they would allow the self to view the silver cord. Such as
a child when riding a bicycle requires training wheels and
every once in a while look at the wheels to make sure they're
there. As a one thinketh and believeth in the heart so shall
they create. This also exists on the astral, you see, to pacify
that of the conscious mind so that the fears are not triggered.
S: I
see. So in actuality there is no silver cord that snaps when
we die?
R: Indeed not. This is a fallacy, indeed.
S: Is
there any way or chance that the astral body can inadvertently
re-enter the wrong body upon returning?
R: And what would happen with the inhabitant
of the body at that point? Does he suddenly pack his bags and
move out?
S: Ok.
This would probably be in the area of discussion of Ruth Montgomery's
assertion of walk-ins and that kind of thing. Does this have
any connection?
R: Indeed. From our perception, there is no
such thing as a walk-in. For indeed all that does exist is
through agreement and choice. Indeed. An astral body, if you
will, cannot knock on the door and say "please move over, I'm
coming in." And unless it is invited in, it will not enter.
But why would one invite or why would an astral portion of
an individual invite another astral aspect within its realms.
There are enough bodies around for everyone.
S: In
fact, by some people's recollection, too many, I would suppose.
Ok.
R: The next question is what is a walk-in.
In actuality, a walk-in is perceived by another individual
in the conscious mind that would to be one who has changed
drastically and to excuse the change, to justify it to themselves,
would say this one is 'possessed'. A walk-in has occurred.
That way they take way the responsibility of themselves and
of the other individual. Those that would have difficulty accepting
changes of another would perceive it as such.
S: Ok.
In the process of learning to do astral projection or as you've
made us aware becoming more aware of our astral projection, is
there any danger of doing self harm and if so, how can one alleviate
these?
R: First of all, understand that the purpose
of astral projection is for self-healing. So therefore, there
is no harm done here. This is the timeframe whereby the physical
body rejuvenates itself, the cells indeed work in harmony and
balance itself. Tis during this portion. That is the purpose
and as well to create a desired reality.
S: What
or to what extent, you've commented on a few things, but could
you give a broader extent of how we benefit from the astral projection,
emotional life, spiritual life, spiritual growth...
R: Would find here that there are many things
which do occur on the astral vibration. We do not choose to
use the word level for all does exist in a vibration. Karma
is balanced through astral experiences. For indeed, realize
that you have encountered many individuals in many lifetimes
and indeed would choose to interact with many on the astral
for you would need to balance karma but there is not enough
time in the physical to balance this karma. If you would choose
to meet every individual that you need to balance karma with
in the physical, can you imagine what you would be doing here?
So indeed, this is as well done through the dream state and
the astral experiences.
S: That
much karma, eh?
R: Indeed. For some. Not for all. It is a
useful tool for learning.
S: How
so?
R: For example, for those that wish to understand
freedom and indeed find that on the physical, there are many
restrictions, they learn this lesson on the astral experience
and this way bring these lessons into their own evolution and
soul's experience. They would create a lifetime of the physical.
They would lay down the path, create the opportunities. For
that which exist on the astral level here or vibration is,
in fact, not restricted by space and time. For there exist
no past. There exist no future. There only is the now. Some
would choose to make agreements for the physical. For example,
individual wishes to give birth. All individuals in question
would interact on the physical as well as the astral and agreements
are made to choose the opportunities for such.
S: So
even the entity or the child...
R: Indeed.
S: Is
part of this agreement or decision, if you will?
R: Indeed. This is correct.
S: This
is done on the astral level?
R: As well here, one would interact with their
own spiritual guides on the astral vibration to learn and to
share and to experience.
S: Ok.
Is learning, you may have answered this but again I'll ask it
for the sake of making sure, is learning to astral travel consciously
beneficial to us at this time? And the second part of that was
how can we do this but you've already given us...
R: Indeed! It is beneficial. For then when
you are consciously aware of your astral experiences, you would
greater enhance the cooperation between conscious and subconscious
mind. Aid to communication here.
S: You
mentioned earlier reality creation. Is this, in fact, how we
create the reality that we have now? Did all of us at some point
agree to be here tonight on an astral level?
R: Absolutely. Indeed, 18 months prior to
your interaction of the physical. This is chosen, agreed upon,
opportunities seen and those who would have thought that they
were to attend this very evening, why did they choose to change
their mind. Indeed. This was chosen at the time, for you see
these individuals were not even at the astral meeting.
S: Yes,
ok. Takes a bit to sink in but alright. Getting into a little
zen here. Is astral travel more easily accomplished in groups?
In other words, a group of people get together and work on astralling
together or would that be a suggestion?
R: It is indeed beneficial. For when one creates
a group mind, one enhances the energy and one does aid each
other to make the choice and lessen the fears. There is something
to the thought form that man has created, safety in numbers,
you see. They would feel less fearful.
S: Survival
again?
R: Indeed! That which frightens many individuals
from recalling their experiences is their fear of being alone.
And that is why mankind fears casting off clay as well.
S: So
that's tied into the fear of death also?
R: Indeed!
S: Alright,
case in point. Harmonic convergence. Thousands, possibly millions,
of people as a group mind got together. Was this a connection
through meditation on an astral level as well and did this, in
fact, do anything?
R: Not only was it a connection on an astral
level, it was connected before the actual physical experience.
Indeed. Many did believe that the convergence took place on
the 16th and 17th of August. Would state here that it began
18 months prior to that date from an astral experience. As
well you see, there are many individuals present at that meeting.
Those that would not exist on the physical. Those that would
not exist in the vibration of the planet Earth.
S: Meaning
extraterrestrials?
R: Indeed. For these are, this is how they
do communicate with individuals, through the astral experience
as well. For they have mastered it, you see.
S: Ok.
What is soul travel and is this just another name for astral
travel and I'd even take that a bit further and mention the word
Ekankar. Or the belief in Ekankar, whatever?
R: Soul travel and astral travel do differ.
S: In
what way?
R: For indeed astral travel is the personality
that exist on the physical exploring and utilizing the vibration
of the astral to create the reality of the physical. Soul travel
is broader still. For it is when souls exchange experiences.
This is what is known to others as integration. That is what
exist from a soulmate experience.
S: When
records are exchanged on higher levels?
R: Indeed!
S: Do
we exist on the astral plane simultaneously with our life here
on the physical?
R: Indeed! Only life on the physical exist
in the linearity. On the astral vibration, there is no space
and no time, so what does exist is simultaneous.
S: Ah,
the butterfly imagining it's a man? Ok. Is astral travel the
transfer of consciousness, is the consciousness transferred totally
to the astral when we're travelling?
R: Not totally. What would keep the heart
beating?
S: Ok.
It's just a partial...
R: Indeed!
S: I
love this question. Is physical life a form of astral dreaming?
R: That is a good question. Indeed! From the
spiritual vibration, for example, if one of us chooses to incarnate
into the physical, to the others that exist on our vibration
would take the appearance of a death.
S: From
your, you mean, one of Reflection would choose you mean?
R: Indeed so. Realize that this is, if you
will, more of a dream for there is less control to the conscious
mind. It is more of a dream.
S: Is
then all dreams a result of astral travel in one way or another?
R: In one way or another, this is correct.
S: Amazing.
How is the astral state similar to what we call or perceive right
now as the trance state? Are you, in fact, a dream we're having
too?
R: Indeed! This could be perceived as such.
How does it differ from the trance state? For there are many
individuals involved in the dream. Whereby on the astral experiences,
there is one individual experiencing.
S: Ok.
Are frequent dreams of flying a type of astral projection or,
I know as a child, I felt there was certain point in my life
where I wanted to go to bed early because I enjoyed the feeling
of flying so much that I wanted to go to sleep so I'd feel it.
Is that in actuality astralling or is that something else?
R: Indeed and so, in fact, is the dream of
the child falling. That is where the term falling asleep comes
from. Individuals fall. They indeed enter into another vibration
to experience their life and to review it, to project into
the future from the conscious perception, bearing in mind from
the astral perception exist not the future.
S: Is
there then a limit to the distance one can astral travel? Can
some people only go to Venus and others can go to Pluto, you
know, that kind of thing?
R: This would be limited only by the fears
of the individual.
S: So
again, it's the thinking that limits.
R: Indeed. Some individuals do choose to enter
into other realities through the astral state and can actually
visit themselves in another lifetime.
S: Wouldn't
that be neat?
R: Indeed! Some individuals go into their
past existence.
S: So
this is where recall or dreams are...
R: Indeed!
S: Alright.
Do we have...do you have an understanding of the space/time relationship
or does it not exist on your realm, as we know space and time?
R: First of all, to further understand space
and time, it is humankind's excuse to limit the self. Time
is an illusion created by the thinking of humanity. It is as
illusionary as Christopher Columbus in his timeframe, whereby
it be believed that the world was flat and you started at this
point and when you received the other end, you fell off. That
was the belief. The Christopher discovered that the world was
not linear. The same does apply to time. Time is an illusion
and when man is ready, there will be the opportunity to surpass
time.
S: Will
man ever be ready?
R: Not for many years to come.
S: So
we still have something to work toward?
R: Indeed. You are still caught up in time.
S: Yes,
we are. Ok. Where do we go when we leave the body astrally? Do
we meet other entities? Do we connect with what is sometimes
called the God energy? Or do we become a unit of this?
R: If you believe that you need to leave the
astral to connect with the God energy, indeed, this would create
more difficulty for you. For the God energy exist in your physical
as well as the astral. You do meet other entities. Some individuals
would choose to interact with others from other galaxies. Some
would interact with the spiritual guides as we have stated.
And indeed as well would choose to balance karma from the astral
plane. For you see, indeed, for those individuals whether or
not they are existing in the physical from your time perception,
they too balance karma. Karma is not limited to the physical
that you exist in.
S: Fascinating.
Do we look at, I think you've answered this but again for clarification,
do we look at probabilities in the astral state and then choose
the ones that we want to manifest and is this done always over
an 18 month period and why do we settle for such a timeframe
in advance? Is it always alike, is it 18 months for everybody
or is there a variance there?
R: Not necessarily. That is indeed the general
statement. In general. You see, each individual is an individual
and you can do this in 18 months and create a reality of your
choice, 18 weeks, 18 days, 18 minutes or seconds. That is when
you have surpassed time that you would accomplish this.
S: And
conditioning and programming and all of that good stuff? Is there
then any limitation to astral projection as we know it?
R: Absolutely not. The limitation occur only
on the conscious understanding through that of fear.
S: This
question probably doesn't apply but I'll ask it anyway. How does
astral projection differ from other forms of tuning into oneself,
i.e. trance or meditation but as you said it doesn't. It's all
part of the same thing.
R: Indeed. Doesn't differ.
S: So
this is a natural ability everyone has.
R: Absolutely!
S: All
we have to do is become aware of it. Getting more here. As there
is no time and there is no space, therefore we really do not
travel anywhere, I love it...
R: Excellent.
S: Is
astral projection simply a change of focus?
R: Indeed. That is what we were indicating.
Astral projection is simply changing your mind from one reality
into another.
S: Amazing.
A more practical question. Again I think you may have covered
this but I'd like to ask it anyway. Can astral projection be
used to learn academic topics such as mathematics, physics, etc.,
and how does that process go in with learning and what's the
connection or correlation there?
R: How do you think Einstein received his
information?
S: Ok.
It was...you mean the theory of relativity was one big astral
projection?
R: Part of this was. Indeed, it is stated
that this individual would take cat naps. Did receive the information
from his cat naps. Did remember the information and woke up
and wrote it down.
S: Then
took a few months to figure what he wrote down?
R: Absolutely.
S: And
now quantum physics is blowing that all to hell. Why?
R: For the time, for the temperament. A stepping
stone, a stepping stone.
S: One
of the steps we've need to take to understand who and what we
are. I'm not sure I understand this question but I'll relay it
as I was given it. While in astral projections or projection,
you experience the feeling of dying, is there any chance that
you would really die in this life? I would imagine because you
astral project, not whether you will or won't die in this life.
R: When one chooses of cast off clay, as one
is constantly giving in to their fear of dying, if you will,
one will create it. For this is a conscious fear, not the responsibility
of an astral experience.
S: So
in essence, is the astral body or the astral experience just
a tool that we have to utilize and how we choose to utilize it
is up to us?
R: Absolutely. Indeed.
S: So
there's nothing we can really blame...alright.
R: You see, man oftimes looks for externals
to blame.
S: Yes,
we tend to do that quite a lot, don't we? A moment please while
I turn over the tape.....
S: Do
continue. While someone is astral projecting and this was a question
that was sent in by somebody who couldn't attend this session,
they seem to be able to move objects in an astral state or at
the same time. Why does this happen and can it be controlled?
In other words, the old vision is is that you're floating around
and putting your hand through things and cannot touch things
but in actuality can one do that? And what is the process and
why?
R: The process is thought transference. It
is the mind that moves the objects, not the physical.
S: So
it's psychokinetic?
R: Indeed. If one wishes to move an object,
one can with the mind. You see, the reason why you don't lift
things with the physical or the astral body, shall we state,
is because there is no need on the astral vibration to touch
with the hand for indeed the mind does the work. The mind is
the builder and the creator.
S: Ok.
Another question from the same individual, what crystal would
most enhance the astral state and how could we program it to
do so? Is there a specific type of crystal that's more of a...
R: The quartz crystal does hold this clarity
for it is an all-purpose crystal. Rose quartz as well, for
rose quartz is beneficial for the mind and does enhance that
of the brow chakra. As well as this, one would use amethyst
as another useful tool here.
S: And
one would what, just simply instruct the crystal?
R: Indeed. You can instruct the crystal but
moreover, it is beneficial to sleep on the crystal. Place it
under your pillow.
S: Hopefully,
it's a small crystal.
R: Indeed. Why does man always believe that
bigger is better?
S: You
did specify man. I think woman have a problem there too but anyway.
I just didn't want any sexist remarks here going on.(humour)
Ok. Are there any other objects and the question was sort of
posed that objects like the Ark of the Covenant were used purportedly
to communicate with other entities or extra-terrestrials, whatever,
would a model of this as instructed in the Bible be an object
that once could enhance astral projection or is there any colour,
sound, word, whatever, mantra that would be beneficial or does
that just...
R: First of all, would find here that meditation
and crystals be useful. There is indeed an object that would
aid referred to as radionics. For it would work on the energy
levels. Would find there is another object, a tool, it has
been known under many names. It is referred to by some as the
ion machine. This has been known to many so we shall use this
term and what it does is it balances the polarity of the individual,
erasing the fears and the blocks, works on the chakric bodies,
giving balance and creating harmony and when this occurs individuals
do astral more easily without emotional attachment to the physical.
S: Just
for clarification, the ion machine was a bed that rotated at
a certain orbit, if you will, and one laid on this and there
was a certain field that was put over the body while you were
doing that and it tended to enhance this.
R: Would find here as well another would be
that of floatation tanks would aid in astral experiences. There
is meditation music. Would find here that indeed there are
mantras but mantras are individual to the individual. For one
would not state one mantra. For if one has different experiences
and would need to use different tools.
S: So
it's more not the mantra but the focusing on one thing that does
it. Alright.
R: And all of the colours do aid. Not just
one.
S: So
the more we clear ourselves out, not just physically, mentally,
and emotionally, but also on the chakric levels, then this enhances
our perceptions.
R: Indeed! Polarity therapy also is useful.
S: For
balancing the body?
R: Indeed! Balancing the auric field does
give use as well, here.
S: So
balance plays a major role in our perception. Does this also
affect the effectiveness of our astral projection or only our
perception?
R: Perception and recall. Ionization is also
used.
S: So
to put an ionizer in the bedroom would be beneficial?
R: Indeed. This will enhance your experiences
and recall.
S: So
there's not just one specific thing?
R: Indeed.
S: Depends
on the individual. How are astral projection and deja vu tied
together or are they? Are they two completely different things?
R: Deja
vu covers many different grounds. Sometimes it would be that of
two individuals meeting and would recognize each other from an
emotional standpoint, not always from a visual. Some would recognize
through the visual. Others through the emotional. And then there
is the deja vu where recognition does exist but it may not necessarily
apply to a past life, reincarnational standpoint. For individuals
may have met on an astral experience. For example here, think for
a moment you wish to create a job of your desire. You tell yourself
consciously over and over again, this is called affirming to yourself,
using, of course, the present tense for the astral and the subconscious
all exist in the present moment. So you see yourself in that job.
In the astral state, the astral prepares the opportunities that
will bring you to that job. Agreements are made. Your future employer
and yourself meet on the astral state and agreement is made. When
you enter into the physical, your spiritual guides give you guidance
through your choice, of course. They do not do it for you but they
lead you to the opportunities. Of course, the more aware you are
of yourself, of the present moment, the more you're apt to make
use of the opportunities that they have led you to which you have
created. When you meet your future boss, you look at him and you
say, "have we met before?" This is deja vu. But where have you
met before? Sometimes it is from another existence but sometimes
it is because you have have met on the astral.
S: Ok.
Can one find one's soulmate or job, obviously yes you can because
this is what you're talking about. So one can then literally
go out and create one's reality?
R: Absolutely!
S: And
obviously does?
R: Without limit.
S: Why
is breaking down limitations such a difficult process for us
as human beings?
R: Indeed. It is the fear of the unknown.
Individuals fear that which the cannot see, touch, or smell.
You see, the unknown is conceptual. Individuals like to know
what exist from one day to the next. They can deal with what
they know. They have difficulty dealing with what they aren't
sure of. And when one doubts the self, that, of course, amplifies
the fear.
S: Ok.
When one and I'll use the example that I was given for the question,
when say a Tibetan master is projecting himself visually to a
student and the student has conscious awareness of this, is this
a subtler form or a more fine-tuned form of a astral projection?
R: It is mastering astral projection.
S: So
instant reality creation?
R: Indeed. Many refer to as Force 5 experience.
S: Yes.
Wayne Dyer calls it that, yes. So this can be as vivid a physical
image as, ok, I'll use the example of the Masters of the Far
East, the books, where visions or physical apparitions, if you
will, would manifest in front of people. Was this, in fact, just
again an expanded version of astral projection?
R: Indeed. It is astral projection. Individuals,
of course, made an agreement on a subconscious level for to
experience this in the physical.
S: So
there then can be conscious awareness of these meetings then?
R: Of course. That is the whole purpose. To
have the conscious and the subconscious in conjunction with
the astral self which is part of both. The astral self is part
of the conscious and the subconscious, indeed, is the link
here. To have it working together in unison.
S: So
from another perspective, the astral is just coming here and
then we become aware of it.
R: Indeed.
S: Do
animals astral project as we do?
R: Not in the same way. They would experience
their own form of astral projection but realize that they exist
in balance within the physical and have integrated their astral
self and conscious self. There is an etheric experience. Animals
do not plan their future. They do not worry about their past.
Indeed there are habits that they have formed but these are
habits that are learned from humanity, if in captivity or controlled.
For they merely amplify what exists within humankind. That
is why a dog can sense fear for, if an individual is fearful,
they amplify this within themselves and respond to that which
exists within themselves. There is an etheric form, for the
animal does experience healing in the same methodology. And
yes, indeed, there is interaction between animals and individuals
who would astral. There is interaction here for particular
experiences, but it is not experienced by the animal in the
same way that individuals do.
S: Is
this why some of us may have a strong feeling to save the whales,
go out and protest about seals being killed? It's not just what
is going on physically that we view but it is also some sort
of subtler connection between the...
R: Absolutely.
S: Amazing.
What senses do we have then on the astral plane?
R: Indeed. The sense of being. The sense of
belonging.
S: Again
our need to label and have things in tiny little boxes that we
can put on shelves. So there is not taste, touch, there's just
being, alright. Can we, I think you've answered this but again
I'll ask it because it was asked. Can we view past lives or future
lives in the astral?
R: Indeed. This has been stated. This can
be done.
S: What
is...is there anything more you'd like to add to the relationship
between dreams and astral projection?
R: Indeed. Dreams is that which your spiritual
guides use in conjunction with the astral self to bring messages
to the consciousness of the individual so that they can understand,
overcome fears, view their limitations, and this is done through
symbology, not through actual verbages, though for some they
have clarified the communication between their spiritual guides
and the self so that it is understood through voice techniques.
But moreover, because the subconscious portion does work in
wholistic thinking or creative aspects, would use symbology
as a form of communication. This is done through the dream
state.
S: Alright.
Now is a series of questions here. Are you finished on that or...
R: Indeed! This is also here simply to add
sometimes it is necessary to bypass the fears and the spiritual
guides would give information in somewhat shaded symbology.
The more you overcome your fears, the clearer your understandings
will be.
S: So
dealing with the self, working on the self, expanding one's intuition...
R: Awareness.
S: Is
definitely to one's benefit. Ok. These questions relate to astral
projection but to yourselves as well. How would you describe
your vibrational state versus ours while in the astral state?
Is there a difference between our astral state and the state
you're right now?
R: Only into that from your perception that
you make the difference.
S: How
so?
R: The difference being that we do not have
the physical and you do, but that which we do, you as well
can understand and do. You have the best of both worlds. Would
find here to further understand our vibration and the concept
of time and linearity thinking versus wholistic thinking, imagine
for a moment a radio. Bear in mind that there are many different
channels, many different vibrations and wave lengths here.
Just because you are listening to one station, does not mean
that there are no other stations playing. Tis simply that you
have tuned in to one.
S: Consciously?
R: Consciously.
S: Are
we still aware of all of the rest subconsciously?
R: Indeed so.
S: What
colour, appearance does your energy form have in the astral state
versus our energy form? Or is there a difference?
R: What is the colour of all colours? What
does that equate to?
S: To
some white but I would question that now that quantum physics
is?
R: It is the totality of all colours as you
are the totality of all colours. Yet you choose to see the
different colours, to understand the whole colour.
S: Last
question, not really on the subject but pertaining to yourselves...wait
a minute. We got a last minute arrival here. Are our inner senses
astral senses or vice versa? You mean clairvoyance, clairsentience,
that kind of thing? Internal sensing?
R: Do you refer to these utilized on the astral?
Would consider this similar. However, on the astral state,
it comes more naturally. It is without conscious thought. Conscious
thought limits the use of the inner senses.
S: Ok,
final question. Again not totally to the topic but probably has
relevance or you can give it some relevance. What means is used
for you to arrive at this location and how does that relate,
I suppose, to astral projection?
R: Are you referring to our entrance into
the channelling aspect?
S: Yes.
R: This is done through agreement, agreement
with that of the sleeping Form, agreement of all individuals
present, the director and all that would exist within the room,
pre-planned, designed for the experience. Simply that the Form
steps aside the conscious mind giving us permission to bring
information that is necessary for the learning of those that
are perceiving such. Indeed. It is like tuning into a radio
station. One moment you wish to listen to rock and roll. The
next, you choose classical.
S: So
our tuning in would be choosing to be here tonight?
R: Indeed. Making the choice.
S: Ok.
Could we have your parting comments please on astral projection?
Parting
Comments R: Indeed. The time is right for mankind
and when we do say mankind, we are referring to the wholistic
portion. The time has come for individuals to allow for their
own personal development and awareness. You have entered the
Aquarian Age and it is time to accept the responsibility of
such. Doing this is to accept the responsibility of the self,
that includes the total self, not just the conscious self.
For it is but a small percentage of who you really are. To
accept this is to give yourself permission to explore and to
learn more of you. Through astral projection, the acceptance
of such would be to accept the self and create a reality that
you would desire. Remember your fears are a limit. That is
all. You are not limited by time, only your perception of time.
You are not limited by labels, only your perception of labels.
You have the choice, the tools. All you need to do is to pick
it up and build your world. And we say unto you, remember you
are never, ever alone. Not through astral projection, not through
the conscious experiences. For you are walking hand in hand
with God. And we do thank thee for your energy, blessed be.
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Donna
Kinniburgh Donna
Kinniburgh is a Deep Trance Medium who works in the style
of Edgar Cayce with her husband Steve who acts as her director/conductor
for these sessions. Donna
Channels a group of spiritual entities who call themselves
'Reflection'
'Reflection'
is a large grouping of spiritual entities who choose to interact in our dimension
through Donna to help human kind understand itself. Their purpose is to
give information and advise, empowering others to be their own leaders,
they
state that"we create our own reality"
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